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Jehovah’s Witness Denial
Submitted by Andrew on July 19, 2012 - 1:37 pm 9 Comments
We get a lot of comments on JWB and on the JWB Facebook Page (shameless plug), and quite a good number of those comments come from Jehovah’s Witnesses and often include the word, ‘Apostate’, as if attacking us personally makes whatever we say automatically false, which is an intellectually dishonest way of discussion.
You see, most of the comments from Jehovah’s Witnesses shout an insult our way, saying that death awaits us if we don’t repent and turn back from telling lies about ‘The Truth’. And that’s where they end. Every time.
Jehovah’s Witnesses are in denial – let’s face it, every negative thing they hear about Jehovah’s Witnesses gets dismissed immediately and called a lie. I keep telling those JWs to show me which bits on JWB are not true, but time after time, over all the years I’ve been contributing to JWB, not a single accuser actually follows up my offer. I tell them to show me the lies and I’ll remove them from the website. How great an offer is that?!
The problem lies in the fact that their denial doesn’t let them actually look into each matter. Let’s take 607 B.C.E. for example. Most scholars agree that 607 B.C.E was not the date of Jerusalem’s destruction. If a Jehovah’s Witness researched this for themselves, they’d see that the whole 607 – 1914 thingymajig is a few years off and that undoes the entire doctine. It would mean that Jehovah’s Witnesses are not the true religion, right? Not that most Jehovah’s Witnesses even understand it’s significance.
So they ignore it. They refuse to research it, and when they do, it’s only in Watchtower literature. It’s kind of like having someone on trial for a crime and asking them if they did it or not. When they say, ‘no’, the judge just says, ‘well, okay then, case dismissed’. Of course, that’s ludicrous. You’re supposed to look at the evidence as well.
Think of how unrealistic it is to believe that the Jehovah’s Witnesses are a faultless religion. Sure, we get the ‘mistakes are made by individuals’ excuse, but 607 B.C.E is an official organisation-wide doctrine. You can’t pawn this off as an individual mistake. That’s just one example – what about the false prophecies they have made, which can be looked up in their own literature, that would scripturally show the JWs are hokum. Take a look through the articles here on JWB for many more.
When I answer Jehovah’s Witness commenter’s, I know that most of them will ignore what I say and I won’t get anywhere. I don’t do it for them. I do it for those listening in – those who are genuinely looking for answers. Hopefully, with any luck, they will see for themselves that the Jehovah’s Witness arguments are empty, that they have no answers, and on the contrary, we ‘apostates’ are telling the truth. Don’t forget – each argument should be assessed on its own merit, not based on who makes it.
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I’ve had the same experience on my website (as you can tell from my “mailbag” page.) JW-think consists of a reflexive defense of the WT: it cannot be wrong or their lives are a sham. Therefore anyone who criticizes what the WT says has to be a liar. It is a black-and-white world: with all the truth within the org and blackness, falsehood, and death outside the org: the epitome of cult indoctrination.
Although there’s little hope of reaching them in that mindset, they may someday have a “crisis of conscience” and your words may then come to mind and fit into place for them. This is what happened to me when they unjustifiably disfellowshiped my pioneering sister. Suddenly all of the criticisms I had heard made sense. The emotional crisis led to intellectual acceptance of the fact that the society was the one with a long history of lying.
In the meantime your words do help others who haven’t yet been fully brainwashed. So keep up the great work you and Teeny do!
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Andrew Reply:
July 19th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Thanks for your kind words! And rest assured, there’s many more articles coming up on JWB – we aren’t going anywhere!
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I cannot tell you how many witnesses I know who live in a state of suspended disbelief, but year after year go through the motions of living a faith they don’t truly believe in, either to avoid the realization that they’ve wasted a lot of years or to keep family ties, or their position in the congregation, etc. Afterall, no good JW has any friends outside a Kingdom Hall. If they left, they would be completely and utterly alone, so they think and are told.
I will never forget, after readying “Crisis of Conscience” how angry I was. I was angry because I had been lied to and lived my life a certain way for 40 years because of those lies, including staying with an abusive ministerial servant husband for 22 years (lest we forget, the WT says women should love their abusive husbands MORE and maybe they will eventually come around – WT4/15/12). Angry, because I was forced to miss my only son’s wedding, because after gaining the courage to leave his father, I was disfellowshipped, Angry, because of all the hours I devoted to the door to door field ministry. What a waste of my youth.
Unfortunately, most witnesses will never see the material evidence that exposes their faith as a lie. They have been taught to fear anything written by former witnesses as apostate. Let’s face it. Their whole cult, like all other cults, is based on fear and isolationism.
I do find it interesting that active witnesses visit this site at all. It tells me they are at least curious and open minded enough to check it out. I wonder if their severe criticism of what they find is just to salve their own guilty consciences for coming to this site and reading what is here.
It’s just sad how many truly good people are being duped by a few old men in New York playing God.
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Sparlock Reply:
July 19th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Since being cast into the Blue Plastic Abyss, I too have been shunned. I didn’t make it to my own film premiere and my only friend, Caleb, won’t even talk to me.
Why did this happen? Because some old farts in New York said magic was out of bounds. Why don’t they thrust Jehovah down here with me, after all, he used magic all the way through the bible, but I suppose that fits their own agenda.
Anyway, I must go before those pesky cats return.
All the best and keep your chins held high. I personally can’t raise mine because I wasn’t made that way.
Love,
John Sparlock tWW
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ABC on Jehovah’s Witnesses-They say Jesus had his ‘return’ aka second coming October 1914.
(No matter how the JW try to spin 1914 that is was ‘invisible’ etc it’s still a lie that comes from William Miller and occult pyramidology)
This is a false apostate teaching,so it’s the Jehovah’s Witnesses Watchtower organization who are the apostate Christians.-Danny Haszard FMI dannyhaszard(dot)com
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You stated:
“It is a black-and-white world: with all the truth within the org and blackness, falsehood, and death outside the org: the epitome of cult indoctrination. ”
I couldn’t have said it better.
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Im an apostate why?
Because i refuse to support a religion that silences victims of abuse because i refuse to support a religion that preaches love and forgiveness but does not practise it because i refuse to support a religion that talks about humility but refuses to admit or apologise about their mistakes because i refuse to support a religion that says onething and does another because i refuse to support a religion that has a history of failed predictions because i refuse to support a religion that would rather let a kid die as long as blood is not given because i refuse to support a religion that would let family members disown even kids so young.
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